Joker is dumb as a box of rocks
"Joker is 122 minutes long, yet somehow contains 183 minutes of Joaquin Phoenix laughing uncontrollably."
All this, and I’ll add: If you want to vote for a movie whose twist ending is actually meaningful and sticks with you for a long,long time, vote for Little Women.
I panned "Joker" and then halfway-talked myself into thinking it had something interesting to offer, but the pleasures of this rant are pulling me back toward my initial take