New studies suggest we're still a long way from herd immunity. Even in the world's hardest-hit cities, the vast majority of people remain vulnerable to the coronavirus.
"The numbers are a fraction of the threshold known as herd immunity, at which the virus can no longer spread widely...
Even in some of the hardest-hit cities in the world, the studies suggest, the vast majority of people still remain vulnerable"
Different samples and different tests - but remarkably consistent with what we know about the size of the outbreaks and the success of the lockdowns.
The World Is Still Far From Herd Immunity for Coronavirus
⚠️The threshold for herd immunity, at which #coronavirus can no longer spread widely is believed to be >60%.
Even in the hardest-hit cities in the world, the highest rate of immunity is only ~20% in #NYC, and the vast majority of people have NO immunity.
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Argument in AFR recently that Australian restrictions for pandemic were excessive rests heavily on claim that herd immunity is near in the US and elsewhere. This is way off the mark. Intellectual honesty requires retractions. @profholden@chrisedmond
Even in some of the hardest-hit cities in the world, the vast majority of people remain vulnerable to the virus, we are still a long way from developing herd immunity @nytimes
There is a tension, to say the least, between the hope for "herd immunity" and the demand that everyone stay away from each other, banning events (i.e. the lockdown). You can't regret that the former hasn't been achieved while favoring the later.
The path to herd immunity (HI) against #COVID19 via natural infection is really far away. NY with 20% seropositivity after witnessing such an unparalleled💀toll can’t provide HI. #WeNeedVaccines
The World Is Still Far From Herd Immunity for Coronavirus
Disappointed in @UpshotNYT on this story:
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A few key things stand out here. They quote unnamed "experts" to support an assumption that herd immunity requires at least 60% infected (this is major underpinning of the piece), but in reality... 1/?
The World Is Still Far From Herd Immunity for Coronavirus
The 3coronavirus still has a long way to go. That’s the message from new studies across the world trying to quantify how many people have been infected.
#COVID19 #COVID19Aus #COVID19au
Estamos muy lejos de la inmunidad de grupo. Nos movemos entre un 7 y un 17%. Es mucho más importante el uso de mascarillas y lavado de manos que seguir pensando en confinamientos. Aquí podéis algunas de la inmunidad en las principales cuidades.
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This article was just published on how far we are from herd immunity for COVID-19. Although the title is definitely correct, the article has a surprising number of important issues and errors in it.
The precise herd immunity threshold for the novel coronavirus is not yet clear; but several experts said they believed it would be higher than 60 percent...studies show herd immunity protection is unlikely to be reached “any time soon”
Les dejo esto:
“We don’t have a good way to safely build it [herd immunity] up, to be honest, not in the short term,” ... “Unless we’re going to let the virus run rampant again — but I think society has decided that is not an approach available to us.”
The World Is Still Far From Herd Immunity Coronavirus: herd immunity protection is unlikely to be reached “any time soon,” “Unless we’re going to let the virus run rampant again — but I think society has decided that is not an approach available to us.”
But @unherd said we had probably achieved herd immunity - that this was all a vast overreaction because something something elite Anywhere snowflakes who oppose Brexit. They said opening up was going to be *easy*. I don’t understand!